The Working Hours Podcast

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Leeds is the largest city in the largest county on the UK mainland. It is a former imperial textile centre. Now, it is a major UK financial centre. The Working Hours Podcast documents the city’s experiences through COVID and Brexit. It covers creeping technological unemployment. It also explores new and ongoing resource wars, the ongoing removal of the welfare state, and the accelerating ecological emergency.

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How to Change the Size of Raindrops Working Hours

Recorded on 28/01/2026Tony Crooks started LeedsNet.com, the first public information service for Leeds, thirty years ago in 1996, before the internet got to the UK. He had 54 telephone lines, with a modem for each line, in the back to back house in Harehills he lived in at the time.Originally starting his working life in horticulture, Tony became an award‑winning cabinet maker, and he has carried that mind-set of having the right tools for the job into his role as Group Head of Research and Development at Aotea Global, where he now applies the right mix of knowledge, methods, and on‑the‑ground practices to solve real problems for communities and governments across Africa.Welcome to How to Change the Size of Raindrops. Tony is leading a massive $3 billion program to restore water cycles across East and Southern Africa. By re-greening huge areas of barren land with simple, natural methods the program will end floods and droughts, deliver full food-security to the nations involved, and enable them to export food in future years—just what Europe and the UK will need as climate change cuts their crop yields. All the tools needed to fix these problems already exist; some are modern innovations and some have been used successfully for thousands of years. These tools are all tested, proven to work, and designed to work together as a whole, rather than in isolation.Most people assume that helping to save the planet cannot make money and is basically charity work but the projections Tony has seen from financial experts show that these programmes can stand on their own feet and generate strong returns. Making them an ideal investment for anyone who wants to make the world better and, at the same time, earn a decent profit. The Zimbabwian water delivery project he discusses in this episode is in the very final stages of negotiation now, and Tony has been told there will be orders for enough pumps to provide clean water at the point of need to between 2.5 to 5 million people in remote villages, meaning that those people's lives will be transformed. They will be able to grow all the food they need, water their animals, have much improved health outcomes and girls can go to school and get an education.This is a brilliant episode about a Loiner who’s doing truly amazing things and it’s another one where we go off-piste from my standard questions. Aotea Global will expand its presence from eight to twelve East & Southern African nations this year. Aotea Global are building a new website to replace the temporary one at http://www.aotea.global and the email for investors is investors@aotea.global – though they don’t have facilities yet for small investors, but you can still register interest.NB This is not financial adviceYou can find out more about Tony’s work at: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tony-crooks-aotea/ Or email him at: tony.crooks@aotea.global Terrance McKenna clip from https://youtu.be/jDTWocis0YQ?si=Q3AsrJ3mK1H4Ic-A

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Why is Working Hours? Creator and host Simon Treen says:

Working Hours exists for many reasons. Primarily, to create a depository of first-hand knowledge and experience about labour and employment in my home city. This effort will span this pivotal decade in the human story. At this crucial moment for our species, what are we doing here in Leeds? Why are we doing it and what does it mean for our shared biosphere?

I want to demonstrate the breadth and depth of working roles that are available to all of us. Our media has a narrow obsession with only ever showing us cops, spies, factories, shops, and media workers. Whatever people do, someone is getting paid to do that thing. I hope to demonstrate that reality.  

My goal is to record at least an hour of experience and opinion on my guests’ work. I aim to create a total of one thousand interviews with Loiners over this whole decade. My interviews are designed to encourage my guests to think. They reflect on their own work, hopefully in new ways.

It’s not scary, but it is fun. Some of my guests have even described their Working Hours interview experience as “work therapy”.

I’d love to chat about your work and I always need guests. You don’t even have to be employed or paid to be my guest! If you live or work in Leeds, get in touch. You can be the star of the show if you are over 18. You just need to live, work, or have been born in an LS postcode.

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